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notability and references issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:N
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:R

I think AEF is alot more notable than most subjects, but I cant prove it because there are no major publications whom have written anything about the software.

if anyone knows of any major publications that have written about this software since the time when I left please post them here and I will be glad to add them to the article and make note of it in the deletion discussion.

because this was the first article that I created on wikipedia I feel rather attached but since my next project after leaving AEF has become being an editor for wikipedia I happen to understand the policies better and have to agree with the nomination that it just doesnt fit the standard. I dont have a leg to stand on when it comes to defending the article, but I am proud of the article which is why I wanted to post it here in case it would help you guys out.


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tabular meh!
it's like they say AEF does not exist because google news has nothing intereting on it..

pathetic..


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Quote From : Armando_G July 7, 2008, 10:53 pm
it's like they say AEF does not exist because google news has nothing intereting on it..

pathetic..

Really dumb and pathetic reason  :squi:

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Quote From : Armando_G July 7, 2008, 10:53 pm
it's like they say AEF does not exist because google news has nothing intereting on it..

pathetic..


Actually, they are saying that Wikipedia is not the best place for an article on AEF because no worthwhile sources of information other than this website exist. Like I said, if anyone can point me to anything that has been published by a well known source about AEF I am more than willing to defend it. Wikipedia has standards on what it will keep as content and unfortunately the article fails to meet those standards.

I suggest someone consider rewiriting the article later on once AEF gets some sort of media coverage. All it would take is some tech magazine, or a local paper, or anything. It is a matter of proper PR.


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Oh I get you now Sykko

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tabular meh!
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61026

post 10.. says there was an article published about it..

does the fact that its the first forum software from India not have some importance?


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Quote From : Armando_G July 8, 2008, 8:49 am
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61026

post 10.. says there was an article published about it..

does the fact that its the first forum software from India not have some importance?


It has come out in the Digit / CHIP Magazine in India.
It was written as the best review of the month then when AEF was released.
This I came to know through my college professor who told me about this article on AEF.

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Unfortunately a link to a forum post that says that it was written about but doesnt give a link to the article wont help. It needs to be verifiable.

the other problem is that it is a "member review" which would be frowned apon because it doesnt in any way imply that the user giving the review is actually an expert on the subject, and there is no way to cross reference their work to see if they are a reliable source since the user only has 7 posts on the forum.

if someone can find the link to the actual published article or a place where it is possible to purchase a hard copy of it I will be willing to buy the issue of the magazine just in hopes of supplying a reference. Although I am not sure if they will consider it enough.

Essentially it is the equivalent to like a letter to the editor, which I dont think would really take off as a ref either.

unfortunately when I did a search on their site all I saw was a link to their forum posts. http://www.google.com/cse?cx=002011264939641994924%3Akxmrtcfailg &q=aef

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No mag will post its issue on the web!!
However we can ask them to send us an email certifying that.

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Quote From : pulkit July 9, 2008, 11:38 am
No mag will post its issue on the web!!
However we can ask them to send us an email certifying that.

Good idea, are you going to do that?

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Quote From : pulkit July 9, 2008, 11:38 am
No mag will post its issue on the web!!
However we can ask them to send us an email certifying that.

Good idea, are you going to do that?


We can ask them !

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unfortunately the email wont be enough.

what is important is that someone actually has a copy of it in case any question about the magazine itself arises.

can anyone quote what the actual printed article says?

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Maybe a scanned image of that magazine article would work?

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if you have a scanned page and can send it to me by the end of the day I will look it over and see if it is strong enought that I can make a proper argument.

although I did find this, which makes things seem grim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COMPANY

appearantly software falls under that category when it comes to showing notability... so unless the article is good and in depth then it may not be enough...

either way once I have seen the article and can describe it, I will definately mention it in the AfD

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The article has been deleted.

Since I am no longer a part of the AEF project that removes me from issues of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Coi once AEF does get written about just have armando let me know and I'll put something back up (or just repost the one posted in this thread)

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